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Re: Speaking of Doc Burgess and The Black Arrow...

Postby dinotheweirdo » Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:29 am

Doc called yesterday!...Confirmed HE ALWAYS Owned Car .Sending Him some Shirts -Nostalgia Drags...with the Arrow on them! .
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Re: Speaking of Doc Burgess and The Black Arrow...

Postby Paul Ceasrine » Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:03 pm

D,
I think the first pictures of the car with 'Doc Burgess' on the car at Dover, was in
April 65'?
May have still been classed in S/SA.
Not sure if it was in A/MP then or Match Race Trim.
Other A/MP cars at Dover;
Ben Cardillo (ex-Al Eckstrand's 64' Plymouth "Lawman")
Joe Bombace (64' Plymouth "11th Commandment")
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Re: Speaking of Doc Burgess and The Black Arrow...

Postby Paul Ceasrine » Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:44 am

65 Doug,
The trick was the pistons. Remove the heavy Mopar stock 12.5-1 slugs, and replace them with a set of J.E. or
Brooks liteweight pistons. Also, change from pressed on pins to Full-floating pins. Worth 3/10's.
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Re: Speaking of Doc Burgess and The Black Arrow...

Postby Paul Ceasrine » Tue May 31, 2011 3:41 pm

Talked to a guy Mark Lawson out of Pennsylvania who had all the information on Doc Burgess and Bill 'Jiggs' Jenkins
aka; Grumpy, and the Black Arrow mystery.

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Re: Speaking of Doc Burgess and The Black Arrow...

Postby dinotheweirdo » Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:48 pm

Ok ...So whats "all the information".....hought we uncovered a bunch here on the forum.More than one 'Black Arrow" topic...hit the search feature with "Black Arrow" and look out . Get this guy on here to fill us in !
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Re: Speaking of Doc Burgess and The Black Arrow...

Postby Paul Ceasrine » Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:33 am

1965 NHRA Winternationals @ Pomona, California
February 5, 6, and 7, 1965.

SUPER/STOCK ENTRANTS LIST

1) William Andress, (Ypsalnti, Michigan)----Dealership backed and sponsored by Serbay Motor Sales
2) Shirley Shahan, (Tulare, California)-------Factory backed and prepped by Butch Leal and H.L. Shahan
3) Paul Rossi, (Taylor, Michigan)-------------Independent
4) Hank Taylor (Dickinson, Texas)-----------Independent
5) Dick Housey (Birmingham, Michigan)-----Factory backed and prepped by Ted Spehar 'Chrysler Skunkworks'
6) Bill Shirey (Detroit, Michigan)-------------Factory backed and sponsored by Golden Commandos/University Plymouth
7) Richard Spence (Kansas City, Missouri)--Dealership backed and sponsored by Sites Brothers Motors
8) Dave Koffel (Massilion, Ohio)-------------Factory backed and dealership sponsored by Maloney Motors
9) Joe Smith (Lubbock, Texas)---------------Dealership backed and sponsored by Fenner-Tubbs
10) Al Eckstrand (Detroit, Michigan))-------Factory backed & dealer sponsored by Golden Commandos/Hamilton Motors
11) Gene Snow (Fort Worth, Texas)---------Dealership backed and sponsored by Melton & Snow
12) Preston Honea (Norwalk, California)----Factory backed and dealership sponsored by Baney Plymouth
13) Bill Jenkins (Berwyn, Pennsylvania)-----Independent; owned and sponsored by 'Doc' Burgess

Note: William Andress was the only the car that was a 4-speed. All other cars were a column-shifted Torque-Flite.

Note: '6' of the '13' cars were Plymouth factory-backed.

Note: '4' of the '13' cars had full Plymouth dealer-sponsorship.

Note: Only Bill Jenkins, Paul Rossi and Hank Taylor were the only independent teams. Meaning they had to purchase their
own 1965 Plymouth S/SA Hemi cars.
Cost $4600

Note: Only Plymouth S/S cars were present at the 65' NHRA Winternationals. The Dodge S/S cars had not begun
production yet.
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Re: Speaking of Doc Burgess and The Black Arrow...

Postby Paul Ceasrine » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:19 pm

1965 NHRA Winternationals;

INDEPENDENTS;

Paul Rossi and his shop out of Taylor, Michigan had a 'solid' reputation as a good Super/Stock car builder.

Bill Jenkins in the Doc Burgess 'Black Arrow' was the only 'East Coast' based super/Stocker to head out west for the
1965 NHRA Winternationals.
Jenkins reputation was that of an engine builder, not a driver.

Hank Taylor of Dickinson, Texas was an independent in the 'true sense'. His father bought him the 65' Plymouth.
In 1964, he held the NHRA S/SA record for a short period with an 11.62 (August/September 64') with his
64' Plymouth Hemi ''Mayflower'.

FACTORY and DEALERSHIPS

The factory was expecting 'big things' from Dick Housey, as his car was put together by Ted Spehar and the
Chrysler Performance skunkworks team at his famous Woodward Avenue Garage in Michigan.

The factory was also expecting Shirley Shahan 'Drag-On Lady to finish on top, as her car was also 'factory backed and
prepped to no end by her husband H. L. Shahan and Butch Leal.
That car had run 11.10's at Carlsbad Raceway in January 1965, (only 2-weeks earlier) in pre-testing for the Winternationals.
And was the quickest 65' Plymouth out there. A 'west coast local' she was the odds on favorite to make it to the finals.
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Re: Speaking of Doc Burgess and The Black Arrow...

Postby Paul Ceasrine » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:40 pm

1965 NHRA WINTERNATIONALS SUPER/STOCK ELIMINATOR

FIRST ROUND

*) Bill Jenkins (W) 11.57 @ 126.40................Bill Jenkins
*) Hank Taylor (L) 11.67 @ 124.44

*) Richard Spence (W) 11.53 @ 125.01...........Richard Spence
*) Shirley Shahan (L) 11.55 @ 125.70

*) Bill Shirey (W) 13.50 @ 97.50..................Bill Shirey
*) 'Bye'

*) Paul Rossi (W) 11.57 @ 126.40................Paul Rossi
*) William Andress (L) 11.61 @ 126.00


*) Dick Housey (W) 11.52 @ 126.70.............Dick Housey
*) Al Eckstrand (L) 11.55 @ 125.70

*) Dave Koffel (W) 12.37 @ 114.50..............Dave Koffel
*) 'Bye'

*) Joe Smith (W) 11.66 @ 124.00...............Joe Smith
*) 'Bye'

*) Preston Honea (W) 11.86 @ 118.50.........Preston Honea
*) Gene Snow (L) Red-light
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Re: Speaking of Doc Burgess and The Black Arrow...

Postby Paul Ceasrine » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:08 am

1965 NHRA WINTERNATIONALS SUPER/STOCK ELIMINATOR

SECOND ROUND

* Bill Jenkins (W) 11.51 @ 125.70...............Bill Jenkins
* Richard Spence (L) 11.57 @ 125.10

* Bill Shirey (W) 11.49 @ 127.00.................Bill Shirey
* Paul Rossi (L) 11.62 @ 125.50

* Dick Housey (W) 11.44 @ 127.10..............Dick Housey
* Dave Koffel (L) 11.58 @ 126.00

* Joe Smith (W) 11.58 @ 125.80................Joe Smith
* Preston Honea (L) 11.61 @ 125.20
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Re: Speaking of Doc Burgess and The Black Arrow...

Postby Paul Ceasrine » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:13 am

1965 NHRA WINTERNATIONALS SUPER/STOCK ELIMINATOR

SEMI-FINALS

* Bill Jenkins (W) 11.44 @ 125.70.........Bill Jenkins
* Bill Shirey (L) 11.45 @ 126.10

* Dick Housey (W) 11.41 @ 126.50.......Dick Housey
* Joe Smith (L) 11.50 @ 125.20


CHAMPIONSHIP

* Bill Jenkins (W) 11.39 @ 126.06.......Bill Jenkins
* Dick Housey (L) 11.37 @ 126.76

Note: Bill Jenkins pulled a holsehsot over the quicker Dick Housey.

Note: Bill Jenkins had been cutting a perfect light on Sunday. As he 'holeshotted' everyone he raced.
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